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kaasbrood · Jun 20, 2010, 03:21 PM // 15:21

Hey there,

I've been struggling to get through the Gate of Pain mission and I just CAN'T seem to accomplish it.
I'm an assassin with spam skills only so i can't fight decently without dying instantly becaues of Dreadfull Pain.
Also my heroes suck so they're pretty useless too (except for interrupters).

Basicly what I need, is someone or a few people who can help me get through this horrible mission as I've tried it for over 30 times already!
My build:

Jagged Strike, Wild Strike, Moebius Strike, Death Blossom, Horns of the Ox, Critical Agility, Critical Defenses, Critical Eye.

Please somebody help me out!

Shayne Hawke · Jun 20, 2010, 08:57 PM // 20:57

You should have fetched your question here if you wanted general advice or here if you were specifically looking for a group.

If your heroes are that bad, I recommend you check PvX or the Heroes & AI section for ideas on what to improve there. As for your build, just stop spamming things mindlessly. Take Disrupting Stab or something for an interrupt on a key skill here or there, and load up some other skills that have long durations and recharges.

Oh, and Lightbringer's Gaze is always a nice tool to have to combat most things in that area.

ac1inferno · Jun 21, 2010, 12:34 AM // 00:34

Interrupts are good for the Terrorweb Dryders' [[Meteor Shower]. Bring more healing than usual for Dreadful Pain and don't spam so much.

Dame Laureline · Jun 21, 2010, 09:31 AM // 09:31

Be sure to take a protection Monk and a healer Monk (Kihm and Mhenlo as henchmen). Odurra as henchman and any warrior or ranger (as henchman/hero) could interrupt most of the meteor showers.
Also superior rune of vigor, runes of vitae and survivor insignia should help. Be sure to not take superior runes of [profession attribute] as you'll get -75 health.

Mintha Syl · Jun 21, 2010, 10:35 AM // 10:35

So you got 'til there and your heores still suck? Ok, like others said, get some decent build for them or either look for a group. If your build works so badly for that mission just change it, if you do that mission with a minimum of reasoning and not just spamming (and spamming in this mission is really the worst thing you can do) it's a very easy one.
I wouldn't recommend Lightbringer's gaze if your problem are the dryders, as they aren't affected by it. Instead, if you happen to have EotN Pain inverter is great against them. Otherwise just bring some good interrupter and they become almost harmless kittens.Odurra is not bad at this, like others said you should consider bringing her. If you still keep having health issues bring 3 monks instead of just 2 (or ritualists or whatever you use to heal/prot).

majoho · Jun 21, 2010, 11:04 AM // 11:04

The main thing is to be careful with the dryders, aside from those it's not too hard.

So make sure kill off any Torment creatures first so you won't get additional aggro, next spread your casters out so they don't ball up, flag your melee a little ahead of them (also spread out) and then you go pull and you should be able to do it. Spells like protective spirit and ward against elements are really useful here (on heroes) and as mentioned above interrupts as well.

You'll find additional tips here -> http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Gate_of_Pain

But I bet you'll enjoy the next mission - I believe it's the hardest normal mission in any of the campaigns.

kaasbrood · Jun 21, 2010, 11:16 AM // 11:16

My main problem are the mobs, since my heroes suck they have lots of trouble to defeat mobs. Terrorweb Dryders are completely harmless tho, I got 2 heroes with 7 interrupt skills. The Torture Webs can also be difficult because for some reason he doesn't get interrupted that often resulting in a huge damage blast killing me with 1 attack along side with half my team :/

I suppose I could try to get some other skills instead of the spamming build. And I also indeed have the superior runes on my armor (the -75 health ones) so that's a problem too ^^.

I got lightbringer rank 2 so I don't have Lightbringer's Gaze yet :/ but anyway I'll try to do it again with your help in mind.
Thanks!

Dzjudz · Jun 21, 2010, 11:24 AM // 11:24

Take a monk hero with Vigorous Spirit and Protective Bond, let him cast both on yourself. This should take care of Dreadful Pain and the hard hitting elementalist skills. Be sure to take the brunt of the damage while under protective spirit, so the rest of the party stays alive. Be sure to either interrupt Meteor Shower or have the enemies cast it on you while you move away from the party.

Scorpion Boy · Jun 21, 2010, 11:30 AM // 11:30

IGN: Iol I Rit U A List

Pm me in-game, I'll help you do it. (need to master it in NM anyway)

pinkeyflower · Jun 21, 2010, 12:04 PM // 12:04

If you just bring rupts for the dryders then you should be able to easily complete it.

kaasbrood · Jun 21, 2010, 12:57 PM // 12:57

Hehe I didn't see your message on time Scorpion Boy but I happened to saw you standing there and I laughed at your name ^^
Anyway I've done the mission now! I died like 5 times tho but I did it!

Scorpion Boy · Jun 21, 2010, 01:57 PM // 13:57

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Originally Posted by kaasbrood

Hehe I didn't see your message on time Scorpion Boy but I happened to saw you standing there and I laughed at your name ^^
Anyway I've done the mission now! I died like 5 times tho but I did it!

^^, if you need any help with the next mission; you know my IGN.

Mintha Syl · Jun 21, 2010, 02:20 PM // 14:20

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Originally Posted by kaasbrood

Anyway I've done the mission now! I died like 5 times tho but I did it!

Congrats, what did you do different that solved it?

Johny bravo · Jun 21, 2010, 03:34 PM // 15:34

Ask him in the next post requesting help for the next mission. That one, while easy with the right group and tactics, is damn near impossible without.

Mintha Syl · Jun 21, 2010, 03:59 PM // 15:59

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Originally Posted by Johny bravo

Ask him in the next post requesting help for the next mission. That one, while easy with the right group and tactics, is damn near impossible without.

Lol that's for sure. And maybe without the nearly. We'll see

kaasbrood · Jun 21, 2010, 08:35 PM // 20:35

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Originally Posted by Mintha Syl

Congrats, what did you do different that solved it?

I changed my build to: Jagged Strike, Disrupting Stab, Wild Strike, Lotus Strike, Death Blossom, Twisting Fangs, Malicious Strike, Critical Eye.
I took 2 interrupt heroes and made them lock onto their target, along with them I took Dunkoro, 2 hench monks, a warrior and a ranger henchman.

I was amazed about the quality of healing, they did a pretty well damn job!

And yes, I've tried the next mission with the millions of Margonites I have to pass (with the lovely environment effect of slowing everything down and 40% more energy cost) and I'm also struggling on this one ^^. I tried it twice or so but after that I went to do something else ^^.

Anyone got some good tips for this mission?

ac1inferno · Jun 22, 2010, 03:23 AM // 03:23

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Originally Posted by kaasbrood

And yes, I've tried the next mission with the millions of Margonites I have to pass (with the lovely environment effect of slowing everything down and 40% more energy cost) and I'm also struggling on this one ^^. I tried it twice or so but after that I went to do something else ^^.

Anyone got some good tips for this mission?

Which mission is this? The next mission after Gate of Pain is Gate of Madness and the environment effect is nothing of what you said. Depths of Madness is "All healing spells and skills heal for 15% less Health."

If for this mission, you may want to bring more healing than you normally would bring again.For the portals, you'll want to clear out the patrols before going for the rifts.

For Lich and Shiro, Lich is easier to kill so you'll want to kill him first. If you want the bonus, now is the time to get it. Then for Shiro, you'll want something to end Battles scars, and since you're an Assassin, you can use [[Wild Strike].

Dame Laureline · Jun 22, 2010, 07:10 AM // 07:10

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Originally Posted by kaasbrood

I got lightbringer rank 2 so I don't have Lightbringer's Gaze yet

On the contrary, you've got the prerequisite.

kaasbrood · Jun 22, 2010, 07:34 AM // 07:34

Well I'm guessing that you mean a gate where you have to talk to someone in the town to start the mission and I don't have that yet, I'm doing the quest to come there kinda.

To clarify

kaasbrood · Jun 22, 2010, 08:25 AM // 08:25

I've reached Gate of Madness now and to be quite honest, how can they expect from you to first kill ~200 monsters and then 2 bosses which get remarkbly strong when they are at 25% of their health :/

Jun 20, 2010, 03:21 PM // 15:21	#1
kaasbrood Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2010	Help me please Hey there, I've been struggling to get through the Gate of Pain mission and I just CAN'T seem to accomplish it. I'm an assassin with spam skills only so i can't fight decently without dying instantly becaues of Dreadfull Pain. Also my heroes suck so they're pretty useless too (except for interrupters). Basicly what I need, is someone or a few people who can help me get through this horrible mission as I've tried it for over 30 times already! My build: Jagged Strike, Wild Strike, Moebius Strike, Death Blossom, Horns of the Ox, Critical Agility, Critical Defenses, Critical Eye. Please somebody help me out!

Jun 20, 2010, 08:57 PM // 20:57	#2
Shayne Hawke Departed from Tyria Join Date: May 2007 Guild: Clan Dethryche [dth] Profession: R/	You should have fetched your question here if you wanted general advice or here if you were specifically looking for a group. If your heroes are that bad, I recommend you check PvX or the Heroes & AI section for ideas on what to improve there. As for your build, just stop spamming things mindlessly. Take Disrupting Stab or something for an interrupt on a key skill here or there, and load up some other skills that have long durations and recharges. Oh, and Lightbringer's Gaze is always a nice tool to have to combat most things in that area.

Jun 21, 2010, 12:34 AM // 00:34	#3
ac1inferno Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Boston Guild: We D Shot Your Stances [GODS] Profession: A/W	Interrupts are good for the Terrorweb Dryders' [[Meteor Shower]. Bring more healing than usual for Dreadful Pain and don't spam so much.

Jun 21, 2010, 09:31 AM // 09:31	#4
Dame Laureline Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2010 Guild: Childs of Amber Profession: P/	Be sure to take a protection Monk and a healer Monk (Kihm and Mhenlo as henchmen). Odurra as henchman and any warrior or ranger (as henchman/hero) could interrupt most of the meteor showers. Also superior rune of vigor, runes of vitae and survivor insignia should help. Be sure to not take superior runes of [profession attribute] as you'll get -75 health.

Jun 21, 2010, 10:35 AM // 10:35	#5
Mintha Syl Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2010	So you got 'til there and your heores still suck? Ok, like others said, get some decent build for them or either look for a group. If your build works so badly for that mission just change it, if you do that mission with a minimum of reasoning and not just spamming (and spamming in this mission is really the worst thing you can do) it's a very easy one. I wouldn't recommend Lightbringer's gaze if your problem are the dryders, as they aren't affected by it. Instead, if you happen to have EotN Pain inverter is great against them. Otherwise just bring some good interrupter and they become almost harmless kittens.Odurra is not bad at this, like others said you should consider bringing her. If you still keep having health issues bring 3 monks instead of just 2 (or ritualists or whatever you use to heal/prot).

Jun 21, 2010, 11:04 AM // 11:04	#6
majoho Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Denmark	The main thing is to be careful with the dryders, aside from those it's not too hard. So make sure kill off any Torment creatures first so you won't get additional aggro, next spread your casters out so they don't ball up, flag your melee a little ahead of them (also spread out) and then you go pull and you should be able to do it. Spells like protective spirit and ward against elements are really useful here (on heroes) and as mentioned above interrupts as well. You'll find additional tips here -> http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Gate_of_Pain But I bet you'll enjoy the next mission - I believe it's the hardest normal mission in any of the campaigns.

Jun 21, 2010, 11:16 AM // 11:16	#7
kaasbrood Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2010	My main problem are the mobs, since my heroes suck they have lots of trouble to defeat mobs. Terrorweb Dryders are completely harmless tho, I got 2 heroes with 7 interrupt skills. The Torture Webs can also be difficult because for some reason he doesn't get interrupted that often resulting in a huge damage blast killing me with 1 attack along side with half my team :/ I suppose I could try to get some other skills instead of the spamming build. And I also indeed have the superior runes on my armor (the -75 health ones) so that's a problem too ^^. I got lightbringer rank 2 so I don't have Lightbringer's Gaze yet :/ but anyway I'll try to do it again with your help in mind. Thanks!

Jun 21, 2010, 11:24 AM // 11:24	#8
Dzjudz Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz	Take a monk hero with Vigorous Spirit and Protective Bond, let him cast both on yourself. This should take care of Dreadful Pain and the hard hitting elementalist skills. Be sure to take the brunt of the damage while under protective spirit, so the rest of the party stays alive. Be sure to either interrupt Meteor Shower or have the enemies cast it on you while you move away from the party.

Jun 21, 2010, 11:30 AM // 11:30	#9
Scorpion Boy Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2005	IGN: Iol I Rit U A List Pm me in-game, I'll help you do it. (need to master it in NM anyway)

Jun 21, 2010, 12:04 PM // 12:04	#10
pinkeyflower Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jan 2010	If you just bring rupts for the dryders then you should be able to easily complete it.

Jun 21, 2010, 12:57 PM // 12:57	#11
kaasbrood Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2010	Hehe I didn't see your message on time Scorpion Boy but I happened to saw you standing there and I laughed at your name ^^ Anyway I've done the mission now! I died like 5 times tho but I did it!

Jun 21, 2010, 03:34 PM // 15:34	#14
Johny bravo Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2006 Guild: [SoS] Profession: N/	Ask him in the next post requesting help for the next mission. That one, while easy with the right group and tactics, is damn near impossible without.

Jun 22, 2010, 07:34 AM // 07:34	#19
kaasbrood Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2010	Well I'm guessing that you mean a gate where you have to talk to someone in the town to start the mission and I don't have that yet, I'm doing the quest to come there kinda. To clarify

Jun 22, 2010, 08:25 AM // 08:25	#20
kaasbrood Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2010	I've reached Gate of Madness now and to be quite honest, how can they expect from you to first kill ~200 monsters and then 2 bosses which get remarkbly strong when they are at 25% of their health :/